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I personally don't think he's Satan like some like to paint him. Yes, he's got a dodgy record. But most of the worst items were a long time ago. 
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The mind boggles at some of the defenders of him on here.  Can't wait until we hear the full results from the police investigation.  Just hoping that more names are brought to light.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote skippy123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2019 at 9:45am
Why is it so surprising?
This was a tweet from a racing journo someone drew my attention to...

“Regardless of outcome of ongoing Weir inquiries, evidence almost daily (inc first winner Bendigo) of the great grounding provided by weir, others capitalising”
14/7/19 Matt Stewart

This winners trainer was the one who set the penalty precedent for jigger use (insert head slap emoji x 1,000)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Glencoe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 12:51am
Did Matt Stewart really mean "earthing "when he used the term grounding?
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If the real truth comes out about what Weir got up to, the racing industry would be hit for six.

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Supplementary Report Ballarat Track work 16th August

Trainer Brady Cross was found guilty to a charge under the provisions of AR132(2)(a) for having in his possession a whip which was of an unapproved nature and to have been modified at Ballarat track work on the 16th August. Brady Cross was subsequently fined the sum of $500. In assessing the matter Stewards took into account the circumstances surrounding the matter.
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For a fine of $500 to be handed down, the whip couldn’t possibly have been adapted to hold a battery, surely?
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The whip is too conspicuous to even think of putting it there....anytime.
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Is he out on his own or assistant to someone else?
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Brady trains in his own right. Ex jockey, weight increased, worked for Terry Kelly then latterly DK on the treadies. Probably just one of the old style whips to only fine him $500.
Experience is something you gain a few minutes after you could have used it!
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Probably took the padding off one trying to wake a colt up
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Yeah, probably 🤔
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From racing.com

Victoria Police have charged former champion trainer Darren Weir over alleged animal cruelty and conspiracy charges, the Herald Sun is reporting.

The newspaper reported that the case against Weir and three other people is expected to begin with a hearing at the Melbourne Magistrates Court on October 23.

Weir has been under investigation by police since three electronic jiggers - devices used to electronically shock horses - were found in a bedroom of his Ballarat home in January.

Weir and two other men - fellow trainer Jarrod McLean and former Weir employee Tyson Kermond - were arrested and released without charge following the January 29 raids.

Weir was later disqualified for four years by the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board after pleading no contest to four charges, three of them in relation to the possession of the electronic apparatus on his licensed premises and the other for conduct prejudicial to the image of racing
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Former champion trainer Darren Weir has been charged by Victoria Police over alleged animal cruelty and conspiracy offences.

Weir has been under investigation by police since three electronic jiggers — devices used to electronically shock horses — were found in a bedroom of his Ballarat home in January.

Weir and two other men — fellow trainer Jarrod McLean and former Weir employee Tyson Kermond — were arrested and released without charge following the January 29 raids

The Herald Sun understands the alleged case against Weir and others will start with filing hearing at Melbourne Magistrates Court on October 23.

Weir was disqualified for four years by Racing Victoria in February.

Weir virtually walked away from racing as his training empire – one of the biggest of the world – crumbled.

He was banned the following week and his vast network of stables were sold off within days as a host of champion horses shifted to new trainers.

The Melbourne Cup-winning handler has been interviewed at length by police investigating allegations relating to the corruption of races and animal cruelty.

The raids were part of an investigation which had been underway since August, 2018.

Properties connected to Weir in Warrnambool were also raided.

Another jigger was allegedly found at a location used by Weir’s former assistant trainer Jarrod McLean.

McLean and Kermond were arrested and interviewed before being released without charge.

McLean is still in the process of answering charges over a jigger found at a Yangery property, near Warrnambool.

Police have since interviewed Weir and his former associations on multiple occasions.

Photographic evidence is believed to have been presented to Weir during the course of those interviews amid suggestions horses had been hit with the jiggers while exercising on treadmills.

The Herald Sun believes cameras were secretly planted in Weir’s Ballarat stables.

Images from those cameras are known to be central to the police case against Weir.

Victoria Police’s Sporting Integrity Intelligence unit has interviewed Weir and McLean on several occasions, following multiple lines of inquiry.

The unit is probing activity including obtaining financial advantage by deception and engaging in conduct that corrupts or would corrupt a betting outcome of an event or event contingency.

Police are believed to have used recording devices such as cameras and phone taps during the investigation.

Several races from last year are under scrutiny.

The Mackinnon Stakes and Grand National Hurdle, which were won by McLean-trained Trap For Fools and Cougar Express, respectively, are also known to have drawn the attention of authorities.

The Sandown Cup, won by Weir-trained Yogi, is another race under the microscope.

Weir, 49, was today issued with nine charges including:

· Conspiracy to defraud Racing Victoria Limited Stewards;

· Section 9(1)(a) of Prevention Cruelty to Animals Act - engaging in the torturing, abusing, overworking and terrifying of a Thoroughbred Race Horse x 3;

· Section 9(1)(c) of Prevention Cruelty to Animals Act - causing unreasonable pain or suffering to a Thoroughbred Race Horse x 3;

· Possess Unregistered Category A longarm.

· Use controlled weapon without excuse.

Three other men were also charged, including a 39-year-old Yangery man, who faces 16 charges including:

· Conspiracy to defraud Racing Victoria Limited Stewards;

· 195C Engage in conduct that corrupts or would corrupt a betting outcome of event or event contingency x 2;

· 195F Use of Corrupt Conduct Information x 5;

· Section 9(1)(a) of Prevention Cruelty to Animals Act - engaging in the torturing, abusing, overworking and terrifying of a Thoroughbred Race Horse x 3;

· Section 9(1)(c) of Prevention Cruelty to Animals Act- causing unreasonable pain or suffering to a Thoroughbred Race Horse x 3; and

· Possess Drug of Dependence (Cocaine).

A 27-year-old Warrnambool man has been issued seven charges including:

· Conspiracy to Defraud Racing Victoria Limited Stewards;

· Section 9(1)(a) of Prevention Cruelty to Animals Act - engaging in the torturing, abusing, overworking and terrifying of a Thoroughbred Race Horse

x 3; and

· Section 9(1)(c) of Prevention Cruelty to Animals Act - causing unreasonable pain or suffering to a Thoroughbred Race Horse x 3.

A 31-year-old Warrnambool man has been charged with one count of 195F Use of Corrupt Conduct Information.

All four will appear at Melbourne Magistrates Court on 23 October.
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Looks like Lindsay Smith will have get a new pre trainer
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Maybe when they start jailing the offenders, they will take more notice. FONC and JC are only saying what hundreds are thinking.
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So whose was the coke? JM?
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That is a trap for fools that stuff!!!!!
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Originally posted by Batman Batman wrote:

Maybe when they start jailing the offenders, they will take more notice. FONC and JC are only saying what hundreds are thinking.

I’d imagine charging him with cruelty will stop him from being allowed to keep horses on his property?

Lindsay Smith will probably end up buying the farm and employ Weir as a consultant! This will go on forever. 

Good to see them get the other two grubs and little Will He 
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All well and good to have these charges but unless he's locked up what's the point?

He's already made an absolute fortune and out of industry for good, he'll probably laugh them off and just plead guilty and continue doing whatever it is he's up to
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Gay3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2019 at 5:51pm
This at least is likely to incur jail time if found guilty & who knows what the Feds are yet to come up with Confused

195C Engage in conduct that corrupts or would corrupt a betting outcome of event or event contingency x 2;

Experience is something you gain a few minutes after you could have used it!
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Well one can only hope then Gay.

And to think this clown used to pretend a knockabout lad on TV. Dead set crook
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nocturnal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2019 at 6:07pm
Originally posted by Discohips23 Discohips23 wrote:

Looks like Lindsay Smith will have get a new pre trainer
maybe Weiry just forgot to clean the top shelf
The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SkyDancer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2019 at 7:11pm
No trigger here

Just don’t like false accusations being thrown around.

At least with Weir there was actual evidence to support the rumours despite several deniers on this forum telling us otherwise. Wonder how PoP is going today?
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And to think. McLean has been going around reassuring his staff, he’d be right. 

Watch the Feds now put the torch to him, Kermond, and Hernan to get as much sh1t on Weir as they can. 

Weir is GAAAAAAWWWWWN......the best thing McLean can do is flip, tell them everything he knows, that way there is a possibility he will be flipping pizzas in Warrnambool and not serving up grits in the big house. He won’t train a horse again so it will be his only option.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Gay3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2019 at 7:15pm
Please leave Smith out of further insinuation & innuendo, joking or otherwise.
Experience is something you gain a few minutes after you could have used it!
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Please leave Smith out of further insinuation & innuendo, joking or otherwise.


Is Lawyer advise ?

There are enough negative comments on the Smith thread without adding more to this one.
Litigation is always a possibility as forums such as this are so easy to keep an eye on compared to FB etc.



Edited by Gay3 - 09 Oct 2019 at 8:09pm




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Golly, Weir even made it on to the TV news in this neck of the woods tonight. 
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Weir is 49, looks closer to 69
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