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Is Arcadia Queen in ?




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Arcadia Queen is running for The Star casino.

I am sure I saw Yes Yes Yes was confirmed on the Racenet website. willing to be proven wrong.
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Santa or Pierata.

Maybe Classique Legend.

Great race!
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Ten Sovereigns to win if dry and cause a big upset.
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Yes Yes Yes is in the mix for Coolmore's slot if rain appears likely, and the remove Ten Sovereigns, that may be the delaying factor.

It's a bit of a dealing exercise, waiting for the cards to fall. Bivouac, Alizee and Brutal all in the deals, and even Trekking, if he wins the Schillaci, and Godolphin don't think he's up to others they have, they're able to not accept the slot (which I'm sure they would arrange for one of their others to take).


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Yes Yes Yes confirmed for the Waller Slot
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Originally posted by pnclick pnclick wrote:

Yes Yes Yes is in the mix for Coolmore's slot if rain appears likely, and the remove Ten Sovereigns, that may be the delaying factor.

It's a bit of a dealing exercise, waiting for the cards to fall. Bivouac, Alizee and Brutal all in the deals, and even Trekking, if he wins the Schillaci, and Godolphin don't think he's up to others they have, they're able to not accept the slot (which I'm sure they would arrange for one of their others to take).



I thought the slot goes to the runner-up in the Schillaci if the winner doesn't take it?
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You are spot on Jacko, my mistake...

The MRC Everest slot

The slot controlled by the MRC in the 2019 Everest will be offered to the winner of the 2019 Schillaci Stakes, under the following conditions:

  1. In the event of a dead heat in the Schillaci Stakes, the slot will be offered to the horse with the higher handicap rating prior to the race. Should the horse(s) involved in the dead heat carry the same handicap rating, the slot will be offered to the horse that has won the highest aggregate prize money in the preceding 12-month period.
  2. Connections of the horse offered the MRC Everest slot must confirm their acceptance by 12pm AEDT on Sunday 13 October.
  3. Prior to confirmation, the horse may be subject an independent veterinary examination as appointed by the MRC.
  4. If for any reason the horse initially offered the slot cannot accept it, the second placegetter in the Schillaci Stakes shall be offered the slot under the same conditions, and so on.
  5. The jockey of the horse representing the MRC slot in the Everest may be required wear colours determined by the MRC in the race.
  6. Distribution of prize money earned in The Everest: of any prize money won by the horse representing the MRC slot in the Everest, the first $300,000 will be allocated to the MRC, the next $100,000 to the horse’s connections, and any remaining amount split 50:50 by the MRC and connections. Prize money amounts payable to the trainer (10% of total prize money), jockey (5%) and stable hand fund (1.5%) will be taken proportionally from the allocations stated above.
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And Alizee gets the Godolphin slot.
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Yes yes yes , no no no , he is not quite up to this level yet and doubt if Waller will fry him without a group 1 win on the board already, i think he will stay at 3yo level until this happens .
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Nsw tab has him YesYesYes as a slotted horse , blow me down .
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Can't believe we have our boy in The Everest! Now to find someone with Tab rewards points to buy a few tickets LOL
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"A VISITING American with a penchant for riveting repartee once observed on his one and only sojourn to the Melbourne Cup that its mother city was the “mitred metropolitan of the horseracing cult”.

Mark Twain’s 1897 observations may well be lost on NSW Racing rottweiler Peter V’landys, a man who seems sadly incapable of appreciating that prestige and class is not acquired in a Weeties packet, or by throwing as much cash as is required.

He boasts the richest sprint race in the world, the 70-second stampede known as The Everest. It’s worth $6 million more than our Cup but a water-sport equivalent would be a bunch of bogans on jet skis taking on the Sydney-to-Hobart maxis.

The English Derby aside, no flat race in the world can compare with the history of the Melbourne Cup.

How V’landys must cringe when he constantly hears it referred to as “the race that stops a nation”, when tools are downed and once-a-year punters cheer home their selections from the office sweep."


An excerpt from an article written by Jon Anderson in this morning's press

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I do not like the race myself but whether I like it or Jon Anderson likes it, or not, The Everest will scrounge together a classier field of sprinters than the Melbourne Cup will of Stayers.

As such the Everest will be a classier race. That is just the way it will be.

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I may have a little " class" but it will Never have the tradition, chalk n cheese.
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It.
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They are both great races, for very different reasons. Neither race has entrants that aren’t top class. Why not love them both 😊
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The Everest is a race designed to suit Australian interests. The Melbourne Cup is a race designed to suit the interests of Europeans, 19th century Australians, and Lord Williams.
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So much for that 🙁 common sense out the window
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Goldeys YYY comment about not frying him I mean
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Trekking confirmed. 

Does In Her Time deserve to be the outsider? Last season she was right up with SAL, Pierata etc. Proven at this level compared to others who are shorter and not. 
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1st up record alone gives her a chance
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Yep not sure how she's double the price of YYY who has already had two tough runs against his own age group that he couldn't win. 
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I see Tony McEvoy has come out and suggested“The Melbourne Cup has lost its Australian-ness,” This is our big race now. This is Australia’s race. The internationals are going to come for this, too, but over the years we’ve been too good for them at this distance (1200m). We can’t compete with them at the staying distance (3200m) of a Melbourne Cup. You look at all the results of all the staying races in the country and the winners are all imports, sadly.”

McEvoy adds: “It’s what we’ve created. We did this ourselves. We went to the yearling sales and started to buy speed. The breeders thought they had to breed to the market. We’ve created this situation ourselves increasing the loss of connection with punters and the public. “I don’t spend any time looking at the Melbourne Cup because you don’t know any of the horses,” McEvoy says. “You don’t get the great old storylines you used to get. I do find it a little sad. I remember being out in the schoolyard and listening to it on the amplifier. These days I’ve heard of schools not even watching or listening to the race. I really do think that’s sad. The Prince of Penzance story was a great one, but that’s a rarity.

Tony makes a few valid points but also glosses over a few.

A. McEvoy is not a noted trainer of two mile stayers. I might be corrected, but he once did train the winner of the Adelaide Cup.

B. Etienne De Mestre, George Hanlon and Bart Cummings would be turning in their graves to think that an Australian trainer would regard winning a 1200 metre sprint as more challenging and satisfying than preparing a horse and winning the Cup.

C. For Heavens sake The Everest is named after a mountain peak in the Himalayas , which has little to no connection to Australia. Surely they could have found a more appropriate name for "Australia's" now "big race."

D. McEvoy laments that punters cannot relate to the form of the imported horses and have lost connection to the race.As far as I can remember the Cup has always attracted the once- a -year punters. who like those next month , had no idea of the form of the runners, jockeys or trainers and will place bets on omens, lucky numbers, saddle cloth colours etc. Until the next year they will probably never place a bet on a horse race or enter an office sweep. 

BTW does anyone believe they will be an office sweep on The Everest at any office in Rockhampton, SwanHill or Hobart ? Thought so.

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The Everest being held in Sydney also helps its credentials as the best race in Australia. Nothing good comes out of Melbourne other than the Hume Highway.
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Cold, hot miserable joint !
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Cold, hot miserable joint !

Of course The Everest is cold, it's the highest mountain in the world .Wink
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Sorry Bob - didn't mean to tarnish the Victorians who post on here. I've come across a few half decent ones over the years & i'd put you in that category for sure. TJ Mitchell would be another one. LOL
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No need to check members profile details re their location. The comments in the MC & Everest threads usually suffice for an accurate assessment. Unfortunately those from Tasmania get awfully confused
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